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  • Discipline and the right attitude can make a seemingly unattainable goal, simple. Kishen K. Warrier, All India CA topper applied this mantra to accomplish his goal. He dispels the myth that the CA course is difficult. The syllabus is just vast, says Kishen, who followed in his late father’s footsteps...

    Kishen K Warrier
    Rank
    : First
    Percentage:70.88
    “Clearing CA requires average intelligence but plenty of hard work,” says the 23-year-old Kishen who lives in Kochi, Kerala’s business capital. “My late father was a CA and I felt I had the passion for accountancy and commerce,” he recalls.

    After topping Class 12 in 2004, Kishen enrolled in the CA programme. His reason for choosing CA, over the MBA was ‘cost benefit analysis’, he says i.e., the cost incurred in the course is much less compared to the salary one finally draws, he elaborates.

    He cleared the Competency Professional Test (CPT) first, then Professional Education I and II before appearing for the Final Exam, followed by articled training. “Commerce graduates with 50 per cent marks are exempted from CPT,” he says.

    The registration for CPT is open throughout the year. A student may register at any time during the year though the examinations are held twice a year in May and November Attributing his success to hard work, discipline and the right attitude, Kishen admits that the articleship, with a  9 to 5 schedule, did not  leave him with much time for exam preparation, especially when he was simultaneously pursuing BCom.

    A meticulous planner, Kishen changed his pattern of study, devoting approximately two to two-and-a-half hours of study on working days and 10-12 hours on holidays. He wrote model papers, received coaching from the Ernakulum ICAI branch, and visited libraries for reference material.

    “I assigned almost equal weightage to all subjects. But some papers are more scoring compared to others, such as Management Accounting and Financial Analysis (MAFA) in Group I and Management Information and Control Systems (MICS) in Group II on which I focused a little more,” Kishen said.

    kishen’s Study strategies
    • Make a timetable. And follow it
    • Selective study is not a good idea. But focus on subjects with scoring potential like MAFA and MICS
    • Constantly your knowledge of tax, laws etc.
    • Visiting finance websites like icicidirect.com and nsc.com (National Stock Exchange) can help expand knowledge.
    The Chartered Accountancy (CA) course is conducted by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI). The course trains a candidate in areas of accounting, auditing and taxation.

    The five-year course is structured into two theoretical sections of one year each and on-the-job training or articleship during the last three-and-a-half years, under the Existing Course regime. “But under the New Course regime articleship training is only for three years,” Kishen informs us.

    CA aspirants can enrol in the programme while appearing for or after having passed Class 12 exam. Currently, despite having some offers on hand, his net analysis is to firm up on a job only after three-four months during the second round of campus placements.

    At present, he earns a stipend of Rs. 5,000 per month at Kochi-based M/s Ramachandran and KrishnaKumar, Chartered Accountants, which according to him is a back-up.

    How important are coaching classes? “They can give a start-up and guide on topics to cover besides inculcating a disciplined approach,” he adds. “But self-study is important.” The total CA fee (for five years) is approximately Rs. 40,000 whereas the entry level salary for chartered accountants averages Rs. 75,000 per month. Sometimes the job openings are to the tune of Rs. 12 lakh per annum, he apprises. Internationally placed students earn Rs. 38 lakh per annum and more.

    “During the articleship period, one can earn stipend anywhere between Rs. 1,000-5,000 per month,” he says An avid reader of Malayalam literature, Kishen also spends his free time browsing finance-related websites, keeping abreast of the stock market and watching Malayalam movies. 

  • Published on: March 31, 2010
  • 31 Comments
  • Cyril | Feb 02, 2012

  • Hello,now i am currently in class,what can i do in order to become a good ca
  • vijay kumar bhaskar | Nov 14, 2011

  • what is the charactriya of charted account
  • Sandip Kumar Tiwari | Oct 22, 2011

  • i am ca cource informantion, i am M.Com.(a/c & taxation)
  • Sandip Kumar Tiwari | Oct 22, 2011

  • i am ca cource informantion, i am M.Com.(a/c & taxation)
  • vikas gahlot | Sep 22, 2011

  • wts is the education classification in ongc and ntpc or drdo
  • vinod bhatia | Aug 29, 2011

  • sir mene hp board se +2 74.6% marks k sath pass kar li hai kya mei ek ca ban sakta hu. agar ban sakta to mujhe ca banane k liye kaya kaya karna hoga
  • vikas | Jul 06, 2011

  • sir mere aieee me state rank catgary me 24000 hai kya mujhe achha college milega.aur sir mai aarthic roop se kamjor hoo.mere liye kya better rahega.
  • sumit kumar | Jun 27, 2011

  • sir mujhe aieee me 434500 rank aya hai. sir mera cateogry s.c hai. kya mujhe ccb ke counselling se college milega. please tell me sir
  • balavenkatesh | Jun 21, 2011

  • lpu is best? equal to vit r high. pl tellme.
  • sudarshan | Jun 20, 2011

  • sir mujhe AIEEE me +13 marks aye hai. kya main online councilling kar sakta hu. main open categiry ka student hu.
  • ketan khatri | May 15, 2011

  • sir i want to know top 25 college in delhi and mumbai and sir can i take the addmision of IIPM in delhi? reply soon sir..
  • ketan khatri | May 15, 2011

  • sir i want to know top 25 college in delhi and mumbai and sir can i take the addmision of IIPM in delhi? reply soon sir..
  • Ravinder Kumar | Apr 20, 2011

  • I want to know top 10 MBA colleges in Rajasthan
  • shivendra tripathi | Apr 16, 2011

  • I want to know top 10 MBA colleges in delhi
  • rakesh kumar | Feb 11, 2011

  • sir please tell me that what is the age limit for the obc candidate in the IES exame
  • mukesh kumar | Dec 30, 2010

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  • ANKIT TALREJA | Jun 30, 2010

  • There are many problems with the current CA syllabus- I.T training is of no use. Students are exploited under articled training.Their wages are even lower than that of a sweeper. Students are forced to do personal work of CAs. Many times,some students bribe CAs to get training certificate but in reality they don't join the articleship. Students should get an option to choose to work with corporates or practising CAs during articled training.
  • MOHAN | May 22, 2010

  • what is the actual average time period for completing CA ?
  • vivek kaushik | May 05, 2010

  • DOSTO M A CAFINAL STUDENT. IN MY POINT OF VIEW CA IS NOT VERY TOUGH IF U TAKE IT SERIOUSLY $ DEVOTE ATLEAST 10-12 HOURS DAILY. BUT MY ADVICE TO ICAI IS THAT THEY SHOULD GIVE A OPTION TO DO ARTICLESHIP IN COMPANIES FOR THOSE WHO DONT WANT TO GO FOR PRACTISE.
  • joyal | May 03, 2010

  • careers 360 should correct the mistakes happened in narrating the stages in ca. 1.cpt is compulsory for all even if u pass ur graduation with a rank(new scheme). kishen has come through a old scheme,and at tat time u have to pass an exam named pe 1 and u were eleigible for exemption if u are having a graduation with 50% above marks. now tat scheme has been changed. 2.now ca is a 3.5 year course and not 5 years 3.cpt exams happens through out the year tat is an exam every month but the differnce is in dec and june it is conducted for students opted for normal exams( tat is pencil mode) and balance period it is online exams And u will get all information about new schemes at www.icai.org
  • rahulkhasis | May 01, 2010

  • hello kisan ji how i fight cpt give me suggestion
  • jonty rhodes | Apr 27, 2010

  • ##Things are not totally in favour of all students, I agree. Almost 30 years back; the same situations were there. May be since inception of CA Institute.## Ans: They have always been in favor of Members. XXXXX had rightly mentioned in one of the post that SEBI Cant be run by stock brokers. IF that would happen, investors would never make money. The same is with ICAI, so long as it is run by its own members, interests of other parties would never be given due consideration and Hitler type rule would come. It is clearly visible today the way things are working at ICAI. ********************************************** In my opinion; "something" is there which requires to pass CA at the earliest. The hidden rule was never explained by anyone. Each student has his own strengths and weaknesses. So one should do his own SWOT analysis.#### Ans: “Something” here means to study all this sh*t. Students have done this forcibly. Sir, you wrote so many things, but I want to know how ICAI IT Module has helped anyone get slightest of working knowledge of computers. I also wish to know how strategic management module of ICAI has given any single student any working knowledge of the concepts they learn. Please refer to the CFA books or any publications from Aswath Damodaran and tell me why our FM syllabus does not match with the standards of other courses covering similar subjects and why our syllabus for all these three subjects is not in line with the todays world and industry needs. ************************************************* In our time; we also read SADP (system analysis and data processing) almost 28 years back when I got "darshan" of a computer after appearing for CA final. So regarding VISION; nobody can question about CA Institute. It realized that future is of IT. May be at that time; the word IT was even not known to many. The subject was tough as I remember. I also remember the Management was also written in one of the toughest language. To overcome the situation; I referred Koontz, Maslow etc. for organisation and management and Dr. Radhakrishnan (for human behaviour). Ans:I appreciate your hard work. If having these subjects can be called as vision of ICAI according to you, what will we say about the laziness, ignorant and arrogance of ICAI to the syllabus and thereafter and the failure of ICAI to set up infrastructure for imparting training of IT among students. Only vision without actions is of no use. ***************************************************** Why we ask for job market only ? CA profession gives you dual opportunity of Profession and Job. The value of CA can be recognized by only those who could not succeed it. They will explain in a much better way than those who passed. Well, if ICAI would have been quite proactive and aggressive enough, 90% of the members would have not been into the job market today. We cant deny that there was a failure on the part of ICAI on this front. Ans:As far as value of CA profession being realized by those not passing it is concerned, well that’s quite subjective. In my own family I have examples of people who never cleared CA exam, finally left it, they have 20 CAs working under them to do all their sh*t work today. I used to attend a tution sometime back for Tax. The real younger brother of the teacher never cleared CA exams whereas the teacher was a topper. He is still struggling to establish his practice, he takes tuitions…whereas his brother who left CA, did an MBA from an average bschool and is not the VP of one of the top brokerage houses of India (he is quite famous and I am sure everyone who watches CNBC regularly have seen him, so I wouldn’t like to name). When I meet these people, they tell totally the opposite of what you mentioned here. *************************************************** If we think that the "system" should be handed over to some other institutes who take care of students; then I think there is a basic misconception in the mind of students that some other can do better for them. CA profession is such that nobody can help. Your own judgment is important to decide what to do to get success. Ans:The second part is true that we only can help ourselves, but I am sure that when this system will be handled by people who live in 21st century and think beyond the poor “accountancy” and dirty tactics of getting cheap labour and exploiting students, life will be far better for us. No newspaper or agency would ever dare to write anything about a system which is run by competent people. Even if they do, atleast the system makers wouldn’t behave like our ICAI who is wearing bangles while reading all this. ICAI and the people there are spineless. They have not yet submitted their report on Satyam to government. When the world wanted to know what ICAI will do about all this, Uttam was enjoying the music and singers in the program of an accounting body! ***************************************************** So don't read only the subject materials. Try to think over it whether it is useful or not. If not, ask someone how they got through it. Again test the advice given according to your parameters (as you all are doing right now). Ans:I did it, no one till know has been able to tell me how ICAI’s books have helped them learn anything as far as IT, SM and FM is concerned. All that I have seen on this website and outside are articles and tips of cracking CA exams as if its like a puzzle. Read this and that, study for .. hrs etc…no one has talked of understanding the subject, its utility…that’s fine, but the surprising thing is hardly any questions this idiotic syllabus. PS - the things about these subjects like FM, IT and SM which I have mentioned are welll known to me. I have been fortunate enough to get good practical training, and at the same time work with people from various backgrounds like engineering, mba etc. I have case studies in my database for SM and have hands on experience with Corporate Finance. But in these issues which I have raised, I am doing it on behalf of my fellow friends who havent been as fortunate as I am to learn all this. If students join CA and thenafter they realize that it is not so useful; then of course it can be said that they have developed their sense which they won't had before joining. Experience come from mistakes !! 100% right.
  • panesar monty | Apr 27, 2010

  • Yeah; agar sab kaam students hi karengee; then what use of using public funds for expenses of these council members. Then ICAI will be called as "White Elephant". Small changes in syllabus is one thing; but major change and that too unfavourable ones against the rights of students during articleship is like stabbing in the back by ICAI.When we entered the course 3 years ago; we saw a different picture of the things to come by. But all these non-sense changes; trying to barter students as slaves in return of some votes to further their stay at council, is unacceptable. And being in middle of these course with only a couple of years to go; we are stuck ; we can't leave it either. We surely wont leave it because those idiots messes our institute. case studies toh ek bahana hain; under the veil of which manipulations will continue.
  • for krunal raichura: caclubindia | Apr 27, 2010

  • I am still wondering how the Information Technology syllabus must have helped anyone to even learn how to switch on and switch off a computer! The IT syllabus which we have is completey useless, has no relevance. Same with FM, stuyding definitions and using those words, but our syllabus is too stupid to really teach anything meaningful out there. Strategic Management, a newly introduced subject is another example of what ICAI wants to do i.e. timepass. Six Sigma, TQM etc sounds great...but all that CA students would know is the definitions and some old literature given in books. ICAI shold have given case studies of atleast 5 companies which succeeded and 5 companies which failed in using these principles. It should have explained in detail about companies that have done these things in detail, with all the circumstances prevailing therin and all other relevant details...thats what differentiates MBAs (from good bschools) with CAs when it comes to management. And with all this, CAs and many foolish CA students would go on and say that CAs are IT professionals and have good strategic management skills.......what a joke! In short, I have only one thing to say that ICAI today is managed like the way Bihar used to be under the rule of Laloo Yadav. ICAI should start introduction of case studies with its own example, as to how the recent developments have degraded brand value of the accounting, auditing profession and CAs in the industry. The point is that its not about interesting or non-interesting. Actually, IT and SM and even FM are very interesting subjects, but when one reads the modules of ICAI they become non-interesting. WHen you read about things like six sigma, tqm etc...but you have no idea about which companies put them into practice, what was the situtation before and after, which companies put it to practice but failed and why these principles didnt work for them etc, how will the subject become interesting? I would also urge you to see the PCC IT Module, and if possible explain us chapter by chapter, page by page as to what you found interesting in it and how it is going to help us as finance professionals. I agree to your points regarding students not taking inititatives to read audit reports etc. Those are surely valid. But as far as IT, SM and FM (event at ca final level) is concerned, I see serious flaws in our syllabus. The point is one can learn everything on his own, read all the books available, make study groups etc. But then what is the role of ICAI, the role of CA modules in building the student? From your post I feel it is nothing. You also mentioned - If still students are not satisfied with the Educational System of CA then in my opinion they should adopt alternative education which is easily available. This is a very good suggestion. But what if a person has a wish to pursue the auditing profession? In that case, he will be forced to go to ICAI, do all this non sense sh*t, go through all hardships caused by the members abuse of their powers. This is not done. Then I feel the monopoly given to ICAI must be removed immediately and some deserving educational institutes like IITs, IIMs who take hell lot of efforts in builiding up their students skillsets and making them competent, be given the authority to conduct exams and supply capable individuals who can carry on this profession well. One important question you raised - HAVE YOU SEEN A CA WHO IS NOT HAPPY WITH HIS PROFESSION AFTER FIVE YEARS OF HIS QUALIFICATION ? I am sorry to tell you, but the answer is a big YES. I have seen thousands of CA's who are unhappy with their profession. They can also see that their growth is capped. Along with many other reasons, this is one more reason why thousands of CAs go ahead and do MBA, CFA etc. They realize it after some work experience that without an MBA, CFA, their life wouldn't move.
  • panesar | Apr 27, 2010

  • Recently, icai has told that they are gonna introduce case studies to CA exams to make it practical oriented. My response is : As we all know ICAI's history in its management against students; this will be a hallf baked effort; started by a president and forgotten by his successor. ICAI needs a complete overhaul; not some puny changes just for an eyewash. Ok. let's consider some scenarios. Suppose; i am an article having exposure only in statutory audit, and Income Tax(most common profile for articles). 1. Costing and finance: 200 marks; how my articleship will help me in solving the case studies of this subject. May be , making slips for conveyance of petrol 2. Audit: Case studies here are essential and welcome. Wont be a problem to any student( genuine or dummy) 3. Law: How my articleship will help me to counter questions on case study of FEMA or Money-laundering act? Yeh word toh maine office me bhi nahi sunaaa :( 4. DT: very much welcome. We file returns. Case studies relating to computations will be easier for genuine students. Rest of the topics will be same for genuine and dummies; as both haven't got exposure in things like Scrutiny;Block assessment, Raid, appealing,etc. 5.IDT: Excise and Customs ka esposure toh usually CA banne ke baad kisi bade CA k andar kaam karne se milta hain. May be only 0.05% of articleship may be getting practical exposure to this fields. They carry at least 60 marks. How will my tickaa-type articleship help me in solving such case studies. aaaah, i get it. My boss always shouts at me as well as his assistant accountant; when i may be drifting towards a siesta in this blistering april heat; so that will help me in waking whole night during exam days. I get it, President Chopra 6. Accounts: Some help for genuine students. Otherwise, not much different. Genuine students don't prepare accounts for government,electrical and banking companies. There fore, as per me, changing question format is welcome. But saying that this will give total advantage to genuine students over dummy is balderdash. Aajkal ke dummy rankers; jaroor ek saal jitna regular articleship karte hain. 2 saal dummy karte hain,, exam ke liye. Most of genuines have only clerical work or manual work. How did i forget MICS? In my articleship; i get to make flowcharts, and have got exposure to oracle, EDP,ERP-SAP. What a lovely dream........ So how will it help in case studies..... November walon ki band bajegii. We are lucky because we can wait and watch and analyse the questions.
  • a depressed CA student | Apr 27, 2010

  • Last year ; the ICAI banned transfers in the name of curbing dummy articleship; but it has hit the innocent regular students. Students are given step-motherly behavior because students don't vote CAs to Council of ICAI; and they are paid even less than a daily wage, who by law; is entitled to get minimum 120Rs per day. IT is a known fact; such rules has increased incidents of CAs exploiting students under them. Most of the time; the practical exposure is monotonous and the students ends up doing the same thing over the entire period of 3.5 years; and most of the cases he is forced to do personal works of CA.
  • an enlightened CA student | Apr 27, 2010

  • CA results are being manipulated by ICAI as the CA act enpowers the council to do so. Now-a-days; icai is being run by bunch of self centred idiots. The worst of them was Uttam Aggarwal who introduced draconian rules to curb basic human rights of students working as interns. IT is not a hidden fact that ICAI has always treated students as supply of lowly paid bonded labourers to its members. And never ever belive the statistics of icai placements; they are always inflated. Most of the students never get jobs; and those who do get paltry ones. You will always find ICAI boasting that it is superior to MBA; but the public and the recruiters know the truth.
  • Vishnu Nair | Apr 09, 2010

  • CA is not a 5year course..it can be finished in 3.5 years.. CPT is the exam introduced in place of PE-1.Their is no chance that he wrote both the exams!!! Carrier 360 should chk the facts before writing..!
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