National Institute of Technology Karnataka Surathkal Reviews
National Institute of Technology Karnataka Surathkal (Also known as: NIT Surathkal)

Mangaluru, Karnataka
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4.2/5
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3.7/5
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4.1/5
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Campus Life
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Vert nice college with very good people.

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Last Seen: 15 Jul' 20

Joined On: 23 Mar' 18

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 15 Jul' 20 by Anonymous
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Hostels:- For Btech first and second year students, the hostels are very very old but they are good enough. They all have common bathrooms but they are well ventilated. For, third and final year students, we have Mega Towers which are very nice. In Mega Towers, we have separate rooms for each person and a common bathroom shared by about 10-12 people. Classrooms:- There are 3 Lecture Halls name LHC - A, B and C. LHC C is the best among all of them and LHC A is the worst.
Academics
As usual, Academics is very nice but the professors can be boring sometimes. You can't expect them to make you understand everything. Since this is college and you have learn everything by yourself. You have to do extra work apart from the studies apart from Academics. Professors from Mech. department are the worst. If planning for Mech, beware!!!
Placements
Placements for CSE and IT are best in class. Companies like Microsoft, Facebook, Goldman Sachs, etc. come to our college. Also we have Career Development Center only for placing students in the best possible company.
Value-for-money
Since, it is a govt. college, you dont have to worry about the fees. They are very low when compared to other private colleges like Manipal, Bits, etc. Now, I have nothing more to say and my friend has recommended me this, I have to fill this box just to cross the minimum characters XD.
Campus Life
Campus Life is amazing here. You have a your own beach which you can go anytime you want (except during night time when there are high tides). But, never go for swimming in the water as chances of drowning is very high in those waters. We have amazing seniors to help, two fests, one ENGINEER (technical fest), and the other INCIDENT (cultural fest). INCIDENT is the best fest overall as it is the second largest fest in whole of South India after IIT Bombay's MOOD INDIGO.
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My experience has been really good in the college.

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Last Seen: 17 Jun' 20

Joined On: 17 Jun' 20

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Graduate & Above

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College Infrastructure
The college infrastructure is really good. It has extra-ordinary facilities such as neat classrooms, good libraries, laboratories also with proper equipment. The WiFi is also provided and sports center is also pretty good.
Academics
I had pursued MTech in this college. The quality of teaching is of high and good standard. Professors deliver the lectures really well. The curriculum includes all the recent technologies and methods which are very important for students to become job ready.
Placements
The quality if placements at this college have been extremely good. The percentage of students placed were about 80% and the highest salary offered was about 18lpa. The placement process is also very easy and college is highly supportive.
Value-for-money
The course had costed me 1 lakh per year. I definitely feel that it is justified to pay that money as the college provides really good resources.
Campus Life
The campus life is pretty good. The best features are the research labs in which students can work. The students can also engage in cultural activities. The campus is very safe.
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Overall, The college is extremely good.
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Fine place for a decent college life.

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Last Seen: 27 May' 20

Joined On: 27 May' 20

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: In Graduation

Posted on 27 May' 20 by Ishan Soni.
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It has almost all the facilities that are required for studies and healthy lifestyle. You get 5GB data per day. Food is not so good in 1st year messes but it improves eventually. You get a lot of sports facilities and equipments for practice and tournaments
Academics
Most of the teachers are helpful and willing to teach. They teach you what is in the curriculum and guide you for jobs and interpreneurship. The curriculum though is old and updation is required. A few professors are least interested in teaching us.
Placements
Highest placements are usually from IT and CS departments and the average package of these branches is around 14-15 lap. Placement rates of all branches circuital and non circuital both are good and average package of all branches is satisfactorily high.
Value-for-money
Course costs around 5.5 lakh (including hostel and mess) Studying here for well paid job and B Tech is worth but if you wish for a lavish campus life It is not a place for you.
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Best for academics

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Last Seen: 01 May' 20

Joined On: 26 May' 19

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

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The infrastructure is pretty great and there are also some old buildings in the college. The broadband connection is great . The places are safe and hygienic but quality of food is somewhat bad here which is a major concern.
Academics
The syllabus will be updated time to time and curriculum is industry based which makes the student job ready.This helps the students to get placements. Webinars are also conducted time to time. Teachers are also well trained.
Placements
Placements here are pretty low compared to other nots but are pretty good compared to other colleges. CSE tops the list in placements followed by ECE. The highest package is 48lpa. The top companies do attend here.
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It is better to join in this college rather than anyother
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I WILL MISS MY COLLEGE DEFINITELY

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Last Seen: 16 Sep' 20

Joined On: 16 Jun' 18

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 20 Apr' 20 by Sai Pavan Reddy
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we have a 250 acre campus, with 10 departments, and many research facilities also. We have both girls and boys hostels and wifi facility is available through out the campus, class rooms are well maintained, and have mics also, all classrooms have projectors, and large boards to facilitate teaching. We have two sports complexes and huge play grounds. A big library, with air conditioned rooms, a gymnasium, a central computer lab etc.
Academics
i am doing my b tech in electronics and communication engineering. The teaching quality is excellent. All the faculty and teaching assistants are well experienced and student friendly. Our curriculum is up to date, and includes all the recent developments.
Placements
We have an excellent placement record every year, which is more than 90 percent. Our training cell called as cdc, career development centre, handles all the placements. Our highest package is something around, 40lpa, and an average of 6 to 8 lpa.
Value-for-money
it costs me around 2 lakhs per year, but it is worth the amount i am paying, i am getting more services from the campus than that i am paying.
Campus Life
WE HAVE OUR OWN PRIVATE BEACH :)
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NOT MORE THAN EXPECTED.

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Last Seen: 09 Apr' 20

Joined On: 09 Apr' 20

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: In Graduation

Posted on 09 Apr' 20 by DARSHAN PATIL
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Bathrooms need to be maintained much more neat and tide.basically for first yeas there are three messes in which two are veg and one is for non veg,but the no of non vegetarian is more so they need to think about it.
Academics
Basically this is my first year so about academics I don't know.but as of now I mean considering first semester it was poor academics for me so more over only newly appointed teachers are being called to take classe for 1st years.
Placements
Many says placements are good here.so i would prefer every one thise who write jee mains to go ahead witb this college.Even my seniors too said that lpa for job is quite good here so this college would be a good choice for jee aspirants
Value-for-money
I had thought money would be less while taking admission but the truth is that here the value is so high.Many come here that the college is under government and thinks that fees structure might be less compared to outsiders but it is high.
Campus Life
Campus Life is bit good as of now but during rainy season it's irritating and more over in Mangalore hot temperature is constant so even it's difficult for us to saty there in summer Overall campus Life is good.
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NITK IS THE BEST

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Last Seen: 04 Apr' 20

Joined On: 05 Jan' 19

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: In Graduation

Posted on 04 Apr' 20 by Akash Kori
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Let me first introduce my college,NITK is one of the top engineering colleges in India and is also the institute of National Importance. NITK has all the necessary infrastructure ,facilities for a research aspirant,World class equipment ,mostly German,because there equipment are the best. when it comes to classroom,it has all the basic facilities one can imagine,for example: wifi facility,charging slots per student,smart boards,etc..Living spaces are too good and the food quality is excellent.
Academics
I choose Civil Engineering,due to family background,mostly of my family members are civil engineers.Teachers here are highly qualified ,with at most knowledge about the subject.No doubt about the teaching staff. Ya,our curriculum is the updated one,and here in NITK regular meeting,seminars are held for teachers to go accordingly. No doubt,whatever you study here, is approved by one of the best faculty.So it makes you ready for the open world.
Placements
Quality of placement here is excellent .80% of the students are placed last year 2019.The highest package offered was 39 lac annually for an IT (Information Technology) student.The average salary offered was 7,00,000/- annually .The placement process was very transparent and college is very supportive.We do also have Career Development Center.
Value-for-money
It cots around 2 lac annually including all the facilities ,for ex: tution fees,hostel,mess,library,etc..The fees i am paying is worth,because in this much amount we are getting all the world class facilities.After paying fees you don't have to pay for anything,for ex:medical expense,sports,etc.
Campus Life
NITK is spread over 300 acres of area,15 km from Mangalore .It has its own private beach which is its best part.The worst part is you have to long travel,inside the campus itself,so cycle is must.And the climate ,it sucks,it only has two season,summer and rainy,so its either extreme hot or extreme cold.There are my clubs ex: ACM,ISTE,IEEE in campus were we can engage.All the staff here is very helpful,you even have television in your hostel.Location is excellent as said above.Ya,it can handle.
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NITK IS PERFECT.
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A nice campus we have.

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Last Seen: 29 Feb' 20

Joined On: 31 May' 19

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 29 Feb' 20 by Nitish Kumar
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College infrastructure is so nicely constructed that I really like it. All classrooms, laboratories, libraries are well furnished. Canteens are well equipped. WiFi facility all around the college is of very good speed.
Academics
Academics in our college is so good and really I like it. All lecturers are so resourceful and highly experienced. Library is having a vast source of reference books to read. All staff members are so friendly and supportive. Co curriculum is also well maintained.
Placements
Placement facility in our NIT is so nice. Even students of mechanical sciences also have vast opportunities. We even have support for entrepreneurship. Annual output is so high and even increasing. Many companies visit us every year.
Value-for-money
My college worth my this much fees, as they are providing best facilities.
Campus Life
Peaceful environment all around the campus.
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Very good.
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NIT K

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Last Seen: 22 Feb' 20

Joined On: 06 May' 19

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 22 Feb' 20 by Prashant
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Our college is having very nice infrastructure. Classrooms re very well constructed. Libraries very comfortable. Labs and canteens are well equipped. WiFi facility all around the college is of very high speed.
Academics
Academics wise our college is very good. All lectures are very much resourecuful and very well experienced. Our libraries are so good nd have vast collection of books. Extra curricular activities are very amazing.
Placements
As being only a NIT in Karnataka state, placement opportunities are very high. Our college yearlyboutputbis tremendous. Although I'm a mechanical students still have lots of chances. Entrepreneurship is also supported.
Value-for-money
There's no waste of money at all, we have best facilities.
Campus Life
Campus life for us is amazing. I love our campus beach.
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best.
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Big companies comes during placemets

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Last Seen: 30 Jun' 17

Joined On: 30 Jun' 17

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Posted on 30 Jun' 17 by irfan khan
This is a huge campus with pollution free.Surroundings are filled with fresh air from the tress.All the facilities like Wi-Fi,sports,huge library with a great collection of books are available. The most beautiful thing on the campus is our own college beach called the NITK Beach.Faculty is friendly and well educated almost 80% are the PHD holders.Up t0 80% students are placed every year Microsoft,Facebbok,Google,infosys etc visites every year.
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Campus Life all the way!

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Last Seen: 05 May' 17

Joined On: 05 May' 17

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Posted on 05 May' 17 by Anonymous
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College life is such a fun ride but getting there: not so much(if anyone asked me if would want to revisit my JEE days, I would never take that offer). So after clearing JEE, there I was like a thousand others excited to start college life. I contacted a few seniors and they gave me really good reviews but they also warned me that though my college boasts to have its own private beach, it's also a minus point since it's hot all the time there.I considered the good points against the bad ones and joined. After two years, I still feel the same, sometimes even better.I met a lot of interesting people from all across the country each in their own way different and yet same. It's always an amazing experience to talk about ideas with them.We can go to the beach whenever we want. The professors are very encouraging and are always telling us to find answers on our and try out different things. We have two fests in our college:one technical and one cultural. The technical fest ENGINEER has events from all fields of engineering and working in those committees is a lot of fun and an amazing learning experience. The cultural fest is even bigger and we have participants from all across the country . Many companies like Texas Instruments, Bosch, Google come to our college for placements and internships and they take away a lot more than they came for. Well there are two sides to a coin. The hostel facilities aren't that great but for what we pay its more than worth it . As I said before, two years down, I still feel the good points outweighs the bad ones and I feel nostalgic when I think that I have only two years left which would be gone in the blink of an eye.
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One of the best NITs!

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Last Seen: 11 Mar' 17

Joined On: 11 Mar' 17

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Posted on 11 Mar' 17 by Anonymous
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NITK life is just amazing. Every individual who joins this college will not just academically bit will also become an all rounder. This is because of the amazing extracurricular clubs NITK has. Faculties are decent here but it mostly depends on the respective departments. Hostel buildings are all old but it is manageable. Every person joinin here will definitely enjoy their engineering life.
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Awesome location transparent administration

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Last Seen: 09 Feb' 17

Joined On: 18 Mar' 14

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Posted on 09 Feb' 17 by Anonymous
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The college i would say is pretty if you compare overall with what we have in the country. It offers a very good exposure to the students irrespective of his branch..given the student want to take advt. Placement are pretty good..one among best in the country.most recommended for it and comp science.
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NITK - A good combo of learning and fun

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Last Seen: 04 Feb' 17

Joined On: 26 Jun' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 04 Feb' 17 by Anonymous
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The college is really a beautiful place with a lot of greenery, friendly crowd and of course the private beach! Apart from being known to produce really good engineers, the college has much to offer to the students in terms of improving other soft skills , extra curricular and co curricular activities. The placements are really good and the college tries to even offer internships to 2nd and 3rd years. Even though there is reservation, the college houses a really good crowd who have diverse interests and opinions. In campus facilities are plenty and the student council are always working hard to make our life easier. The hostels are actually better than that expected of a government institution. It has campus wide Wi-Fi which is really cool. Also the college is using its funds to build new , better buildings with latest technology and renovating old buildings. Faculty are really good- highly qualified and supportive. They are engaged in research activities and also take up government funded projects and allow students to help them out giving us an opportunity to practically get a feel for the concepts learnt in class. Overall,the college is awesome and I would recommend people to join
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NITK experience

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Last Seen: 02 Dec' 17

Joined On: 20 May' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 31 Jan' 17 by Vichitr Gandas
NITK Surathkal is really best college in India. It has a unique thing "NITK Beach". Only college in India having it's own beach. Placement status and infrastructure is really good. Northern students won't like it's Hostel life because here they provide southern eatables. College faculty is really good. They help students as much as they can. Seniors are really good here. You can ask your doubts them, they will try best. Ragging free campus. Many cultural and technical events organised in the college." Incident" is such a big cultural festival in NITK. It's famous all over south India. And "Engineer" is a Techfest which makes NITK feel proud. Dance club, music club, film club, design and creation club are here. We can choose our interest and participate. And major fact is, college is really very aware about students' future and real world. Health care centre is also here. Sports club members are really good. We can play the sport whichever we like. I'm a first year student. I really got a good experience in the college because of beach and events. Overall college is the best. I love NITK.
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The Overall Experience Is Worse

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Last Seen: 19 Nov' 16

Joined On: 19 Nov' 16

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Posted on 19 Nov' 16 by Anonymous
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Improper management and coordination. No official posting of information, unhealthy working hours. No sufficient information on internships, training and placements. Unhygienic conditions of drinking water and overhead tank systems, dishes available in the mess are deliberately not good. Some faculty really do not know the subject, maximum of teachers do not know to teach and understand students despite knowing the subject, some deliberately play with student life.
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Vacation from work

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Last Seen: 08 Sep' 16

Joined On: 08 Sep' 16

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Posted on 08 Sep' 16 by Sai Krishnan
Two years of vacation after two years of stressful work. It was finding an oasis in a desert. The brand value of NITK was good and the campus had all the facilities required. The accessibility to reach college was also very good compared to many other IITs and NITs which usually lies sin city outskirts. The places nearby and the serene beauty of trekking spots in the western ghats nearby made the stay even more pleasant. The beaches that lie in the vicinity and the nearby holiday spots like goa also added to the fun. Got so many new friends which are beyond words could ever describe.
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Life long memories with Best college life one can ever get

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Last Seen: 02 Sep' 16

Joined On: 10 Aug' 16

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Posted on 01 Sep' 16 by Anonymous
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NIT Surathkal - The best days of my life! It's the place where best of the engineers of India are united. The placements are indeed the best in the industry with companies coming year long. I agree the faculty base needs to be improved with more of Professors coming in than Assistant Lecturers. Apart from this, the campus has excellent infrastructure and is spread across 250 acres. Moreover, It's the only college in India that has its own private beach, including a lighthouse! What more we need to refresh ourselves amidst the hectic schedule. The hostel has different blocks for each years students with multiple canteens. Whether it's 2pm or 2am, one always have many options to eat from like Nescafe, Coffee Dubba, Nandini, Amul, Crumbs, Night canteens, GMPD and the list goes on. Also, the college sees huge crowd during its national Technical fest - Engineer, Cultural Fest - Incident which adds on more to the fun. In true sense, it's a place where one gets to learn a lot from peers (best minds) and have a lot of fun at the same time. Truly one would take away a lot of memories to cherish throughout the life.
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I had best years of my life

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Last Seen: 30 Aug' 16

Joined On: 19 Sep' 14

Education Interest: Management

Education Level: Graduate & Above

Posted on 30 Aug' 16 by arvind kumar
Hostels were like hotels with sea view. I was provided an opportunity to undergo summer internship for corporate exposure. The placement here is at par with best colleges of India.Friends and sea beach made my college life so enjoyable. I was placed in Oracle as Software Developer. I was provided with all basic facilities along with the LAN connection which was awesome.
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Didn't find what I wanted to become, found myself instead

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Last Seen: 04 Oct' 17

Joined On: 04 May' 14

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Posted on 25 Aug' 16 by Anonymous
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Has gorgeous campus, good professors, on par instruments for all departments, good hostel management systems and down-to-earth students and administrators and many various clubs and groups to find and discuss topics/hobbies of interest. Even has its own beach, gymnasium, swimming pool and many sports facilities. Lacks high-level instruments in labs, below average hostels (over 50 years old), still not fully computerized storage, admission and evaluation systems. Placements are extremely good for most departments and usually extend to a large range of students, including students interested in research. Hostels could be upgraded in many ways, especially the hygiene and food facilities. Student crowd: Down to earth and focused but fun people. College is affordable to live in due to the low price of food and commuting to the city for any formal work or even just for entertainment purposes. Fee tallies to about Rs. 75,000/- per semester.
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The ultimate college experience

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Last Seen: 02 Mar' 16

Joined On: 02 Mar' 16

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Posted on 02 Mar' 16 by Satchit
Well, initially NITK seemed to me as a place of utter boredom where the only thing people do is study. But coming to this college absolutely changed my perspective on things, the size of the college amazed me. Despite the hostel being somewhat average, with new friends and a bit of readjustment it quickly became a new home. The infrastructure is ok but is put to good use in the college. The number of events held in college is overwhelming and has exposed me to a lot of new events and experiences. The faculty is caring and most are simply brilliant. Overall I really liked the college life here at NITK.
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Great college

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Joined On: 29 Feb' 16

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Posted on 29 Feb' 16 by Anonymous
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What more can I say "we have a private beach" :D :D Great atmosphere but the teaching is average. well, fests are the time we eagerly wait for and it is conducted on a large scale. LAN has amazing speed so watch YouTube videos without buffering :D AL and all an amazing college and certainly a place to be for engineering!!!!!
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Best dream that came true in my life

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Last Seen: 13 Sep' 20

Joined On: 28 May' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 22 Feb' 16 by Anonymous
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My experiences in this college till far has been wonderful and I hope it would be even better till my final year.Here you would find every variety of people from India. When I first came to the college I expected the infrastructure of the college to be the best but it wasn't up to my expectations but the interior of every building is at its best condition. Our college has the 2nd largest cultural fest in the South India and 5th largest in India. I am proud to be in such a college. Taking about the placements people, at first, get nervous whether they will get the job or not but in reality almost maximum people get it. I love to live in Hostel since it doesn't feel like hostel because ITS A HOME AWAY FROM HOME... and lastly we have our own private beach.
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It's an awesome place to avail your dreams in technology

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Last Seen: 02 Dec' 19

Joined On: 07 Apr' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 18 Feb' 16 by Nithinreddy
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Its infrastructure is damn awesome...and you can really find professors who are really talented and who are at your call for any problem and you can find a really good place for stay when you come here to avail any intern ....and can even make really awesome friends.
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Excellent teaching and best placements

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Last Seen: 03 May' 18

Joined On: 28 Apr' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 16 Feb' 16 by Anonymous
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  • Batch of Jan. 1, 2016
Good infrastructure facilities almost about 300 acres of area. Stands 1 sit position in the rank of placements among all NIT's in India. Hostels are not too bad nor too good.excellent placements.The best way to clear the carrier is to join in this type of colleges.
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Creating a History

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Last Seen: 17 Feb' 19

Joined On: 18 Jun' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 15 Feb' 16 by Sahana Neralkatte
One of the top most college in India. Proud to be a part of it. I appreciate the enthusiasm with which our college celebrate all the festivals without any discrimination. I am mesmerised by our college cultural great INCIDENT and technical fest ENGINEER. I have no complaints about our hostel food. Our college surrounding is attractive.
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Very good to improve your skills

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Last Seen: 04 Jun' 18

Joined On: 01 Jun' 15

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 15 Feb' 16 by yaswanth saiteja av
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My college is very good at infrastructure and placement and even labs practicals everything's which we require for our future and it provides very helpful involvement of everyone for fests events etc. Even juniors can join in any committee and can propose their ideas and can enjoy fully..to the best here
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Academics and fun go hand in hand

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Last Seen: 13 Feb' 16

Joined On: 23 May' 14

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 13 Feb' 16 by Vivek Kumar
Well, this is the only college in India having its own beach. College infrastructure and placement are worth praising and quite ahead of some of the IITs. Systematic working of clubs and student council allows students to study and have fun at once. Having some of the greatest fests(Engineer, Incident, Crescendo) of India, it feels awesome to be a part of this college.
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NITK a world within the world

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Last Seen: 22 Jun' 14

Joined On: 26 May' 14

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 12 Feb' 16 by Neha
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The best place to transform from the pampered and secure world of school and home to a responsible youth. Here u can enjoy life at its best and also load your minds with knowledge and wisdom with its amazing faculties and rich cultural diversity. Great college fests that attract people from everywhere to clubs that have something for everyone and best placements, NITK is 'the' place to study at.
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It is the best place to learn

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Last Seen: 19 Mar' 20

Joined On: 09 Apr' 14

Education Interest: Engineering and Architecture

Education Level: Class 12

Posted on 12 Feb' 16 by Anonymous
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Our college is one of the top leading colleges in India It has a really good placements statistics. It is a 400acre wide campus with excellent infrastructure facilities. The students those who come here are also good. The hostel is not that great over here. The climate here is awesome. Monsoon types of climate. Our department faculty is really good
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